{"id":52808,"date":"2017-06-20T15:00:21","date_gmt":"2017-06-20T22:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/news\/?p=52808"},"modified":"2017-06-20T15:08:32","modified_gmt":"2017-06-20T22:08:32","slug":"florida-judge-makes-dramatic-u-turn-pre-reveal-slot-machines","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.casino.org\/news\/florida-judge-makes-dramatic-u-turn-pre-reveal-slot-machines\/","title":{"rendered":"Florida Judge Makes Dramatic U-turn on Pre-reveal \u201cSlot\u201d Machines"},"content":{"rendered":"

A Florida judge had a complete change of heart about the legality of so-called \u201cpre-reveal\u201d gaming machines this week.<\/p>\n

\"Florida
Judge John Cooper admitted he \u201cgot it wrong\u201d on pre-reveal machines and was quick to add that the reversal decision had nothing to do with the political situation involving the Seminoles. (Image: AZ Central)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

In March, Judge John Cooper ruled the machines were \u201cnot an illegal slot machine or gambling device\u201d because he felt something couldn\u2019t be considered a game of chance if the outcome was known beforehand.<\/p>\n

But the Seminole Tribe of Florida<\/a> asked him to reconsider, warning that the declared legality of the machines was in breach of its compact with the state and could cost the state billions of dollars in future revenue-share payments.<\/p>\n

\u201cSlots-style type games materially the same as these have been held by federal and state courts in other jurisdictions to be illegal slot machines and are a clear violation of the Tribe\u2019s negotiated exclusivity as set forth in its gaming compact with the state which guarantee exclusive operation of slot machines outside of Miami-Dade and Broward counties in exchange for monthly payments,\u201d wrote Marcellus Osceola Jr, chairman of the Tribal Council.<\/p>\n

Nothing to Do With the Seminoles<\/b><\/h2>\n

On Monday, Cooper changed his mind. Pre-reveal machines, which can be found in bars throughout the state, were illegal unregulated slot machines, he said.<\/p>\n

He had gotten it \u201cwrong the first time around,\u201d he admitted, because he hadn\u2019t fully understood the nature of the machines.<\/p>\n

His reversal had nothing to do with pressure from the Seminoles<\/a> but was based on hearing further arguments on how pre-reveals actually work, he added.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cMy holding is not based upon whether (the Tribe) likes the ruling or dislikes the ruling,\u201d said Cooper.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The machines, distributed by the Gator Coin II Company of Jacksonville, which brought the original case, invite players to press a preview button before play can be activated, which informs them whether the next spin will win or lose.<\/p>\n

\u201cNo Chance\u201d Machines<\/b><\/h2>\n

Gator Coin argues that the machines are \u201cno chance\u201d machines because the outcome of each spin is known to the player before it happens. But the reality is, the player is ultimately gambling on winning the spin afterwards, which remains unknown.<\/p>\n

Other than that, the machines look like slots and, like slots, \u201coperate upon the insertion of money and award prizes through the element of chance,\u201d according to the state\u2019s filing.\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Cooper said he now understood the game was a \u201cseries of plays,\u201d including known and unknown outcomes.<\/p>\n

Kathey Bright Fanning, president\u00a0of\u00a0Gator Coin II\u00a0company told reporters outside the court she was \u201cdisappointed\u201d with the judge\u2019s reversal.<\/p>\n

\u201cThey\u2019re wrong,\u201d she said. \u201cThe tribe is wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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